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Larry Williams SP500 DayTrader Newsletter

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The interesting Story behind Larry's S&P DayTrader Newsletter

It began in December 2006 as an experiment...

Trading the S&P 500 can be dicey at best. In the fall of 2006 we began offering free S&P signal to our subscribers, racking up over $6,000 profits; 16 trades with 10 winners.  Subscribers kept asking for more signals so we began - again - to give day trade signals for free in November of 2007... we had 15 trades, 9 winners and $19,725 profits. These were real trades all of our subscribers, in real time... unlike any other service you have ever seen. I wanted to prove the signals would hold up - FOR FREE AND IN REAL TIME TRADING.  You see, I think one trade in real time is worth 50 from some "back tested" optimized system.

With 31 trades under our belt, 61% accuracy, and over $25,000 profits, I felt it was time to "go live" with the S&P DayTrader service... and I could not have picked a worse time... the massive slide and volatility expansion of January 2008.

Well, that's the story behind how this service began. For the rest of the facts and low subscription cost, just keep reading...

Tuesday January 15, 2008 was our official start date for this service as a paid subscription. Below are the monthly results since the paid service started. In mid October of 2008 we switched to trading the Eminis due to the massive increase in volatility. You will note the track record reflects that adjustment. You can still trade the large contract, but you can also trade the small contract with less exposure.

COMMODITY TRADING IS RISKY. SO YOU KNOW THE RISKS, PLEASE READ OUR DISCLAIMER BY CLICKING HERE

Please note the change from trading the large contract to the small contract. To properly compare 2008 to 2009 results, you either need to multiply the 2009 results and the last few months of 2008 by 5, or divide the results from mid Oct '08 back to Jan '08 by 5. The individual trades are listed below so you may properly do so.

Emini & SP DayTrader Newsletter Track Record

2009 Results
Month Profit (Loss)
January (Emini)
($1,505)
February (Emini)
$1,000
March (Emini)
($398)
April (Emini)
$1,900
May (Emini)
($160)
June (Emini)
($125)
July (Emini)
($1,850)
August (Emini)
($145)
September (Emini)
($340)
October (Emini)
$310
November (Emini)
$475
December (Emini)
$240
Net Profit (Loss) YTD ($603)

 

2008 Results
Month Profit (Loss)
January (SP500)
$15,600
February (SP500)
($7,450)
March (SP500)
$8,825
April (SP500)
($7,075)
May (SP500)
$20,075
June (SP500)
($3,650)
July (SP500)
($3,025)
August (SP500)
$7,600
September (SP500)
($25)
October* Started Eminis
$20,723
November (Emini)
($1,463)
December (Emini)
($530)
Net Profit (Loss) YTD
$49,605

 

Dec 2009
Contract
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
Emini Dec LONG 12/10/2009 12/10/2009 1104 1102.3 (85)
Emini Mar LONG 12/21/2009 12/21/2009 1108.5 1108.1 (20)
Emini Mar SHORT 12/23/2009 12/23/2009 1115.8 1115.8 0
Emini Mar SHORT 12/28/2009 12/28/2009 1125 1122.9 105
Emini Mar SHORT 12/29/2009 12/29/2009 1126.5 1121.7 240
Trading Results: 5 trades, 2 winners
$240

 

Nov 2009
Contract
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
Emini Dec LONG 11/2/2009 11/2/2009 1033.5 1038.5 250
Emini Dec LONG 11/5/2009 11/5/2009 1058 1063 250
Emini Dec LONG 11/13/2009 11/13/2009 1091.2 1091.4 10
Emini Dec SHORT 11/25/2009 11/25/2009 1105.5 1109.2 (185)
Emini Dec LONG 11/27/2009 11/27/2009 1085 1090 250
Emini Dec SHORT 11/30/2009 11/30/2009 1090.5 1092.5 (100)
Trading Results: 6 trades, 4 winners
$475

 

Oct 2009
Contract
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
Emini Dec LONG 10/6/2009 10/6/2009 1044.5 1049.5 250
Emini Dec LONG 10/22/2009 10/22/2009 1082.7 1090 365
Emini Dec SHORT 10/23/2009 10/23/2009 1088.5 1077.4 555
Emini Dec SHORT 10/26/2009 10/26/2009 1066.5 1065.7 40
Emini Dec LONG 10/28/2009 10/28/2009 1057 1039 (900)
Trading Results: 5 trades, 4 winners
$310

 

Sept 2009
Contract
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
Emini Sept LONG 9/2/2009 9/2/2009 992.2 994.3 105
Emini
Sept
LONG
9/4/2009 9/4/2009 1011.3 1014 135
Emini
Sept
SHORT
9/9/2009 9/9/2009 1026.3 1032 (285)
Emini
Dec
LONG
9/14/2009 9/14/2009 1032.5 1043.5 550
Emini
Dec
SHORT
9/16/2009 9/16/2009 1052 1063 (550)
Emini
Dec
LONG
9/29/2009 9/29/2009 1060.9 1055 (295)
Trading Results: 6 trades, 3 winners
($340)

 

Aug 2009
Contract
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
Emini Sept SHORT 8/3/2009 8/3/2009 992.9 1000 (355)
Emini
Sept
SHORT
8/6/2009 8/6/2009 991.5 994.5 (150)
Emini
Sept
LONG
8/12/2009 8/12/2009 998.4 1003 230
Emini
Sept
SHORT
8/14/2009 8/14/2009 1010.5 1007 175
Emini
Sept
LONG
8/19/2009 8/19/2009 990 996.3 315
Emini
Sept
SHORT
7/21/2009 7/21/2009 1013.5 1025 (575)
Emini
Sept
SHORT
8/24/2009 8/24/2009 1029 1024.7 215
Trading Results: 7 trades, 4 winners
($145)

 

July 2009
Contract
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
Emini
Sept
LONG 7/8/2009 7/8/2009 879.6 874 (280)
Emini
Sept
LONG
7/10/2009 7/10/2009 874.1 873.7 (20)
Emini
Sept
SHORT
7/14/2009 7/14/2009 897.5 902.5 (250)
Emini
Sept
SHORT
7/15/2009 7/15/2009 912.5 931 (925)
Emini
Sept
SHORT
7/20/2009 7/20/2009 942.5 948.8 (315)
Emini
Sept
SHORT
7/21/2009 7/21/2009 954 953 50
Emini
Sept
LONG
7/29/2009 7/29/2009 984.4 982.2 (110)
Trading Results -7 trades, 1 winners
($1,850)

 

June 2009
Contract
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
Emini Jun LONG 6/4/2009 6/4/2009 937.7 940.8 155
Emini
Jun
SHORT
6/5/2009 6/5/2009 942 940.5 75
Emini
Jun
SHORT
6/8/2009 6/8/2009 931.7 938.8 (355)
Emini
Jun
SHORT
6/11/2009 6/11/2009 942 942.5 (25)
Emini
Sept
SHORT
6/12/2009 6/12/2009 936 940.6 (230)
Emini
Sept
SHORT
6/19/2009 6/19/2009 917 915.5 75
Emini
Sept
LONG
6/23/2009 6/23/2009 891 889.6 (70)
Emini
Sept
LONG
6/29/2009 6/29/2009 921.5 921.5 0
Emini
Sept
SHORT
6/30/2009 6/30/2009 921.5 916.5 250
Trading Results - 9 trades, 5 winners
($125)

 

May 2009
Contract
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
Emini Jun SHORT 5/7/2009 5/7/2009 918 907.2 540
Emini
Jun
SHORT
5/11/2009 5/11/2009 911.5 908.8 135
Emini
Jun
LONG
5/14/2009 5/14/2009 883.2 889 290
Emini
Jun
LONG
5/20/2009 5/20/2009 919.2 899.8 (970)
Emini
Jun
LONG
5/21/2009 5/21/2009 889.5 888.3 (60)
Emini
Jun
LONG
5/28/2009 5/28/2009 907 905.1 (95)
Trading Results - 6 trades, 3 winners
($160)

 

April 2009
Contract
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
Emini
Jun
LONG
4/1/09 4/1/09 808 808.5 25
Emini
Jun
LONG
4/7/09 4/7/09 818 812.5 (275)
Emini
Jun
LONG
4/16/09 4/16/09 855.8 861.5 285
Emini
Jun
LONG
4/21/09 4/21/09 828.7 848.2 975
Emini
Jun
LONG
4/24/09 4/24/09 861 866.5 275
Emini
Jun
LONG
4/28/09 4/29/09 856.8 869.1 615
Trading Results - 6 trades, 5 winners
$1,900

 

March 2009
Contract
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
Emini
Mar
LONG
3/3/09 3/3/09 711 689 (1,100)
Emini
Mar
LONG
3/4/09 3/4/09 705.85 709 157
Emini
Mar
LONG
3/9/09 3/9/09 675.9 690 705
Emini
Mar
SHORT
3/11/09 3/11/09 721 720.5 25
Emini
Mar
SHORT
3/13/09 3/13/09 753 757.2 (210)
Emini
Jun
SHORT
3/16/09 3/16/09 763 753.5 475
Emini
Jun
LONG
3/30/09 3/30/09 794 785 (450)
Trading Results - 7 trades, 4 winners
($903)

 

February 2009
Contract
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
Emini
Mar
LONG
2/2/2009
2/3/2009
821 826 250
Emini
Mar
SHORT
2/4/2009
2/4/2009
828 831.5 (175)
Emini
Mar
LONG
2/6/2009
2/6/2009
848.5 867.7 960
Emini
Mar
SHORT
2/11/2009
2/11/2009
820 831.5 (575)
Emini
Mar
LONG
2/19/2009
2/19/2009
795.3 779.5 (790)
Emini
Mar
SHORT
2/23/2009
2/23/2009
762.5 743.2 965
Emini
Mar
LONG
2/24/2009
2/24/2009
752.7 769 815
Emini
Mar
LONG
2/25/2009
2/25/2009
769.5 760.5 (450)
Trading Results - 8 trades, 4 winners
$1,000

 

January 2009
Contract
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
Emini
Mar
SHORT
1/9/2009
1/9/2009
908 884.7 1,165
Emini
Mar
LONG
1/12/2009
1/12/2009
884 867.8 (810)
Emini
Mar
LONG
1/20/2009
1/20/2009
839.2 802 (1,860)
Trading Results - 3 trades, 1 winners
($1,505)

December 2008
Contract
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
Emini
Mar
LONG
12/12/2008 12/12/2008 875.7 885.4 485
Emini
Mar
LONG
12/19/2008 12/19/2008 889 881.3 (385)
Emini
Mar
SHORT
12/22/2008 12/22/2008 870.5 871.3 (40)
Emini
Mar
LONG
12/23/2008 12/23/2008 873 858.6 (720)
Emini
Mar
LONG
12/24/2008 12/24/2008 864.7 865 15
Emini
Mar
SHORT
12/29/2008 12/29/2008 868.3 870.4 (105)
Emini
Mar
LONG
12/30/2008 12/30/2008 883.8 888.2 220
Trading Results - 7 trades, 3 winners
($530)

 

 

November 2008
Contract
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
Emini Dec SHORT 11/4/2008 11/4/2008 984 1003.25 (963)
Emini Dec LONG 11/10/2008 11/10/2008 948.5 921.5 (1,350)
Emini Dec LONG 11/12/2008 11/12/2008 878.5 853.5 (1,250)
Emini Dec LONG 11/17/2008 11/17/2008 876 851 (1,250)
Emini Dec LONG 11/18/2008 11/18/2008 847.5 866.5 950.00
Emini Dec LONG 11/24/2008 11/24/2008 814.5 848 1675.00
Emini Dec SHORT 11/25/2008 11/25/2008 848 853.25 (262.50)
Emini Dec LONG 11/26/2008 11/26/2008 866.5 886.25 987.50
Trading Results - 8 trades, 3 winners
($1,463)

 

October 2008
Contract
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
SP500 Dec LONG 10/1/2008 10/1/2008 1156.5 1168.4
2975
SP500 Dec LONG 10/6/2008 10/6/2008
1076.5
1053.3
(5823)
SP500 Dec LONG 10/10/2008 10/13/2008
891
916.2
6350
SP500 Dec LONG 10/13/2008 10/13/2008
943
1016.7
18646
Emini Dec SHORT 10/14/2008 10/14/2008
1017.5
1002.25
763
Emini Dec SHORT 10/16/2008 10/16/2008
897.25
941
(2188)
Trading Results - 6 trades, 4 winners
$20,723

 

September 2008
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
Sept LONG 9/2/2008 9/2/2008 1297.8 1276.5 (5,325)
Sept LONG 9/5/2008 9/5/2008 1229.8 1242.2 3,100
Sept LONG 9/10/2008 9/10/2008 1240.2 1233.4 (1,700)
Dec LONG 9/25/2008 9/25/2008 1198 1213.6 3,900
Trading Results - 4 trades, 2 winners
($25)

 

August 2008
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
Sept
SHORT
8/1/2008
8/1/2008
1265
1260.3
1,175
Sept
LONG
8/4/2008
8/4/2008
1258.5
1248.8
(2,425)
Sept
LONG
8/8/2008
8/8/2008
1267.1
1292.3
6,300
Sept
LONG
8/15/2008
8/15/2008
1298
1299.7
425
Sept
LONG
8/28/2008
8/28/2008
1289.6
1298.1
2,125
Trading Results - 5 trades, 4 winners
$7,600

 

July 2008
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
Sept
LONG
7/11/2008
7/11/2008
1246.1
1239.8
(1,575)
Sept
LONG
7/17/2008
7/17/2008
1253.7
1253.4
(75)
Sept
LONG
7/21/2008
7/21/2008
1267.1
1261.6
(1,375)
Trading Results - 3 trades, 0 winners
($3,025)

 

June 2008
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
June
LONG
6/2/2008
6/2/2008
1395.7
1385.4
(2,575)
June
LONG
6/10/2008
611/2008
1356.2
1341.2
(3,750)
Sept
SHORT
6/17/2008
6/17/2008
1367.2
1353
3,550
Sept
LONG
6/23/2008
6/23/2008
1321.8
1318.3
(875)
Trading Results - 4 trades, 1 winners
($3,650)

 

May 2008
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
June
LONG
5/1/2008
5/1/2008
1385.6
1411.6
6,500
June
LONG
5/5/2008
5/5/2008
1412
1408.3
(925)
June
LONG
5/6/2008
5/6/2008
1397.5
1420.7
5,800
June
SHORT
5/7/2008
5/7/2008
1408.3
1395.3
3,250
June
LONG
5/8/2008
5/8/2008
1393.7
1392
(425)
June
LONG
5/9/2008
5/12/2008
1389.5
1404.7
3,800
June
SHORT
5/16/2008
5/16/2008
1426.8
1429.8
(750)
June
LONG
5/27/2008
5/27/2008
1373.4
1384.7
2,825
Trading Results - 8 trades, 5 winners
$20,075

 

April 2008
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
June
LONG
4/7/2008
4/7/2008
1382.6
1372.2
(2,600)
June
LONG
4/8/2008
4/8/2008
1370.5
1371.0
125
June
LONG
4/10/2008
4/10/2008
1362.4
1362.8
100
June
LONG
4/11/2008
4/11/2008
1347.3
1335.6
(2,925)
June
LONG
4/14/2008
4/14/2008
1335
1331.3
(925)
June
LONG
4/15/2008
4/15/2008
1364.8
1370.9
1,525
June
LONG
4/30/2008
4/30/2008
1395.5
1386.0
(2,375)
Trading Results - 7 trades, 3 winners
($7,075)

 

March 2008
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
June
LONG
03/13/08
03/13/08
1295.30
1315.30
5,000
June
LONG
03/14/08
03/14/08
1325.50
1293.00
(8,125)
June
LONG
03/17/08
03/17/08
1261.30
1279.50
4,550
June
LONG
03/18/08
03/18/08
1304.00
1334.00
7,500
June
LONG
03/20/08
03/20/08
1325.10
1324.70
(100)
Trading Results - 5 trades, 4 winners
$8,825

 

February 2008
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
March
LONG
02/01/08
02/01/08
1380.0
1397.1
4,275
March
LONG
02/08/08
02/08/08
1333.0
1330.3
(675)
March
LONG
02/11/08
02/11/08
1341.4
1338.2
(800)
March
LONG
02/12/08
02/12/08
1362.5
1349.8
(3,175)
March
SHORT
02/13/08
02/13/08
1355.6
1363.7
(2,025)
March
LONG
02/19/08
02/19/08
1351.3
1355.4
(1,025)
March
LONG
02/25/08
02/25/08
1369.0
1371.6
650
March
LONG
02/29/08
02/29/08
1350.0
1331.3
(4,675)
Trading Results - 8 trades, 2 winners
($7,450)

 

January 2008
Month
Pos
Trade Date
Exit Date
Entry Price
Exit Price
Gain (Loss)
March
SHORT
1/16/08
1/16/08
1379.5
1376.1
850
March
LONG
1/22/08
1/23/08
1309.3
1341.5
8,050
March
LONG
1/23/08
1/23/08
1279.3
1341.5
15,550
March
LONG
1/25/08
1/25/08
1369.1
1334.1
(8,750)
March
LONG
1/28/08
1/28/08
1355.0
1354.6
(100)
Trading Results - 5 trades, 3 winners
$15,600

You need to know this… there will be losing trades, streaks and everything that can go wrong --- and right --- will happen. You just have to be mentally and financially prepared for that.

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For those that ‘need to know’
the details of my day trading service…

I think one real time signal is worth 50 from back testing…

Above you find my real time results. Those are more meaningful than what follows - but regardless both sets of results are from the past and do not guarantee future results will be the same or profitable.

What follows are the back testing results. If you have been a subscriber, you have seen the real time signals. What you may not know is that 90% of these signals are the product of systems explained at my “Million Dollar Challenge” seminars where I traded $1,000,000 (real time in front of students) and gave back 20% of the profits... so these are not signals just grabbed out of a hat yesterday or developed through pure back testing.

I am not much of a believer in past tense track records; but for those that think this stuff means anything here are the back testing results (back testing is hypothetical - above are the real time trading results).

Back Testing Performance Results Year by Year

Year
Profit
Trades
Win Pct
Win Avg
Loss Avg
Run Up
Run Dn
AvgTrade
Max Loss
2000
$266,775
70
88.57%
$4,460
($1,220)
$5,765
($2,923)
$3,811
($2,970)
2001
$166,875
70
84.29%
$3,004
($940)
$4,326
($1,402)
$2,384
($2,170)
2002
$186,590
73
89.04%
$2,973
($833)
$3,682
($1,123)
$2,556
($1,820)
2003
$110,520
69
85.51%
$2,005
($778)
$2,597
($1,550)
$1,602
($2,445)
2004
$72,490
68
76.47%
$1,602
($676)
$2,163
($1,072)
$1,066
($2,545)
2005
$50,140
58
77.59%
$1,334
($760)
$1,871
($991)
$864
($1,995)
2006
$60,985
62
72.58%
$1,624
($713)
$2,269
($1,060)
$984
($1,420)
2007
$123,370
69
84.06%
$2,311
($968)
$3,202
($1,934)
$1,788
($2,195)

 

Back Testing Performance Results Exit Market on Close

Total Net Profit: $1,039,125 Profit Factor ($Wins/$Losses): 14.32
Total Trades: 540 Winning Percentage: 82.60%
Average Trade: $1,924 Payout Ratio (Avg Win/Loss): 3.02
Avg # of Bars in Trade: 0.04 Z-Score (W/L Predictability): -1
Avg # of Trades per Year: 67.7 Percent in the Market: 1.00%
Max Closed-out Drawdown: ($4,570) Max Intraday Drawdown: ($8,940)
Account Size Required: $26,258 Return Pct: 3957.40%
Open Equity: $0 Kelly Ratio: 0.7683
Current Streak:
6 Wins
Optimal f: 0.99
Winning Trades
Losing Trades
Total Winners: 446 Total Losers: 94
Gross Profit: $1,117,130 Gross Loss: ($78,005)
Average Win: $2,505 Average Loss: ($830)
Largest Win: $16,455 Largest Loss: ($2,970)
Largest Drawdown in Win: ($5,220) Largest Peak in Loss: $7,030
Avg Drawdown in Win: ($475) Avg Peak in Loss: $1,046
Avg Run Up in Win: $3,346 Avg Run Up in Loss: $1,046
Avg Run Down in Win: ($475) Avg Run Down in Loss: ($1,411)
Most Consec Wins: 21 Most Consec Losses: 3
Avg # of Consec Wins: 5.95 Avg # of Consec Losses: 1.27
Avg # of Bars in Wins: 0.04 Avg # of Bars in Losses: 0.05

 

Back Testing Equity Curve

sp equity curve

 

How the service works

5 hours before the opening of the S&P 500 Pit Session each day, I will post new signals in the subscriber area of the web site that specify what will create an entry. The standard exit is "market on close" and there is no stop loss. You may choose to use one if you like, but the system does not.

You can trade this on the EMini operating off the S&P 500 Pit Session opening.

Here are a couple of example signals.

1) IF Next Bar Open < 1392.80 To Enter Long: BUY 1 Contract at 1399.6 STOP

2) IF Next Bar Open > 1401.8 And Next Bar Open < 1423.5 To Enter Short: SELL 1 Contract at 1401.8 STOP

 

Bottom line...

The bottom line is we will charge $600 for a 3 month subscription to S&P DayTrader Service. That is the only subscription length we have; no one month or 12 month subscriptions. I want the right for both of us to walk after 3 months. Like the market, there are no guarantees, so no refunds on this service.

Not every signal gets elected. You will not be in a trade every day. The system averages 1.5 trades per week. Look at the real time trade results above to get an idea of how frequent the system trades.

If this is what you would like to placate your short term and day trading urges I cannot think of a better---and safer---way to do it.

If you subscribe, we will NOT be emailing the signals. You MUST go to the web site "Subscribers & Visitors " area and login to view the signals. Signals are posted a minimum of 5 hours before the S&P Pit open each trading day of the week.

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